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Gediminas, descendant Y-DNA

As it was thought that the Lithuanian family of Gediminas or the Gediminids might ultimately belong to the Rurikid line, the same Rurikid Dynasty DNA Project sought to discover the haplogroup of their famous founder Gediminas. It was surprisingly found that while this is not precisely the case, the Gediminids also belong to the Y-DNA Haplogroup N1c1, yet of a different subclade. In fact the Gediminids and Rurikids are actually very distant cousins, sharing a common ancestor circa 2,500 years ago.

Rurik of Novgorod

His male-line descendants founded Kievan Rus', and ultimately the Tsardom of Russia, including Ivan the Terrible until 1598. They belong to the Uralo-Finnic Y-DNA Haplogroup N (N1c1). Most living Princes of the Rurik Dynasty or Rurikids also belong to this haplogroup, specifically those descending from Vladimir II Monomakh. The remainder belong to Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) below, and so have been suggested to be of Slavic origin.

Person DYS39339019391385a385b426388439389i392389ii458459a459b455454447437448449464a464b464c464d PuzynaAlleles142314101113111211131429189911122514192814141414 GagarinAlleles142314111113111210141430189911122514192914151515 RzhevskyAlleles142314111113111210141431189910122514192914141515 KropotkinAlleles142314111113111210141430189911122414192814141515 MyshetskyAlleles142314111113111211141530189911122514193214141515 VadbolskyAlleles142314111113111210141430189911122514192714141515 KhilkovAlleles142314111113111210141430189911122514192914141515 PutyatinAlleles142314111113111210141431189911122514193014141515

Ysearch: EAKVQ, WYAK3, HP2VB

Source: Russian Nobility DNA Project. Note, however, that this information originally came from the Rurikid Dynasty DNA Project: [3]

Removing the Eupedia Link

I don't think we should link to the Europedia Famous Haplogroup pages. They are basically a regurgitation of "scraped" information found on various websites without proper sources to back up the claims of the assigned DNA Haplogroups. I have spent a lot of my time researching a lot of the claims of Famous DNA and this website is part of the problem. TomHutchison (talk) 09:05, 23 November 2016 (EST)

That's fine by me. We want to ensure that the ISOGG pages are an authoritative source and that all the claims can be independently verified.DebbieKennett (talk) 09:15, 23 November 2016 (EST)
Ok, I will remove it. I wouldn't even add the Wikipedia article at this time either. It has been marked for a few years as not source properly. The scraping of content is really bad. One site publishes something and the exact same wording appears on 6 different sites. TomHutchison (talk) 11:34, 23 November 2016 (EST)